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Didn't You Hear
UPDATES! UPDATE
1: Reader John Stanton sent me this
interesting letter:
"I decided to do a little searching for info on the film Didn't
You Hear and came across your excellent site. Looks like a labor
of love and though I am not as much as a film fan as I once was (I'm afraid
the music bug is my consuming passion), I'm sure I'll find lots more that
will be interesting.
"Anyway, more to the point, you mentioned that if anyone had any
information relevant to the film then let you know. This is rather
peripheral and you may be aware of this already but the person who composed
the score for the music Mort Garson, was a fairly well known musician in
the late 60's/early 70's, primarily for his use of the then novel Moog
and other synthesizers. He recorded an LP under the moniker Lucifer,
entitled Black Mass; it is dark brooding electronics. Also he did
an LP called Cosmic Sounds which is based on signs of the Zodiac
which is similar but in a more psychedelic 60's mode. I am sure he
did other recordings as well and may still be active in music today, who
knows.
"I have only seen maybe 1 hr. of this film but am going to try to
get a copy on video if I can. I fell asleep on the couch one evening
and woke up about 3:00 in the morning and couldn't get back to sleep.
I turned on the TV and did a little channel surfing and this film was on.
It was at the sequence where the "mermaid" swims onto the boat and joins
the crew. I was fascinated by what I saw though the flaws you pointed
out were blatant and the film seemed as ridiculous as it was ambitious. Nonetheless I was very much held rapt by the movie. I was extremely tired
however and fell back asleep after perhaps 45 min -1 hr. Always tried to
find out more about this film and well, here I am. I seemed to recall that
it looked like Judd Hirsch was also in this film or am I mistaken? Anyway,
thanks for the info and again, great site!"
Thanks for this information, John. To answer your question: Judd Hirsch
did not appear in this movie. Aside from Christopher, Busey, and Waters,
it seems the rest of the cast was made up of unknowns. Good luck trying
to find it on video, though; it's long been out of print.
UPDATE 2: Reader Timothy L. Fox was kind
enough to share this information with me:
"I'm surprised no one has said this, or perhaps they have already
and I don't know, but Jack Kosslyn, who played Higby in Didn't You Hear,
had a somewhat productive film career and was a frequent favorite of Director
/ Producer / Writer / Special Effects Artist Bert I. Gordon. Some of the
films he appeared in, besides Gordon's, include Play Misty for Me
and High Plains Drifter. Great film site, I'll be sure to bookmark
it!"
UPDATE 3: Bruce Kitts sent me this very interesting letter:
"Here's what I can tell you about Didn't You Hear:
"Karl Krogstad and I were seniors at the University of Washington when he approached me about his movie project. He had been making short films in his
spare time, but somehow he connected with someone willing to let him make a feature film.
"He had a script written by some woman about a fantasy daydream but he needed something to set up the daydream. He described the characters and
asked me to write something. I typed out about six pages, with the
conversation walking along the campus and the sorority initiation. (When they showed it on television they drowned out Gary Busey's lines with a jet
overhead.)" (Note: This also happens in the video version.)
"Krogstad said I would be paid for my writing and he set up a meeting with Skip Sherwood, who turned out to be an ad salesman whose family owned
newspapers and who had talked someone in his family into letting him make a movie. Krogstad told me later that Sherwood had some connection to a
production company and that many in the crew had worked in major features, although in lesser jobs.
"Make no mistake about it, this was Krogstad's movie even though Sherwood is
listed as the director. Krogstad was listed as the director of photography, and the quality of his work stands out. Krogstad's family had property in
the San Juan Islands and he picked out the locations. Krogstad and I met with Skip Sherwood, who looked over my stuff and said it was great and told me he can't pay me much. I said "I don't care, I'll just
feel good about having my name in the credits." The room goes silent and I learn a lesson about film credits.
Sorry, but the rights to the credits were negotiated when they bought the stupid daydream story. Sherwood says he'll give me $250, which I never saw.
"The movie was filmed at the University of Washington during the summer. I
had graduated and moved to Alaska where I was a newspaper reporter and was unable to see the movie when it came out later that year. I read the Seattle
papers, though, and read the reviews, one of which said that the only good things about the movie were the funny scenes at the beginning of the movie
and the scenic photography during the stupid daydream story. My family saw the movie and occasionally I ran into people who saw it.
"Evidently they rented out four or five theaters around Seattle for a week in
hopes of getting strong attendance. It snowed, and the next time I saw
Krogstad (when he had another writing project for me), he told me that the IRS owned the movie.
It wasn't until 1983 when it showed up in video that I finally was able to see Didn't You
Hear. I got out my carbon copies of my script and followed Gary Busey and Dennis Christopher speaking my lines. They spoke them the way
I wrote them. Then I had to sit through the stupid daydream part.
"Krogstad has made many short films over the past 30 years or so. He
utilized Barbie and Ken dolls almost 20 years before they showed up in
Toyota's ad campaign. His Black-And-Decker Hedge Trimmer Murders is
wonderful. He took a serious turn with "Surrealism." Information about
Krogstad is available at his website at:
http://hometown.aol.com/kkrogstad/movies/krogstad.htm.
"Krogstad has good stories about the production including how he had to stop
Gary Busey from punching Dennis Christopher because he thought Dennis was stealing Gary's scenes."
UPDATE 4: Lynn Templeton provided this
information:
"I just read your essay and review of Didn't You
Hear. I too had an interest in this movie. One of the cast members, John Rice, was in my high school
class (Glacier High School, since closed, near Seattle). I have no idea how
he got in a movie a year after we graduated (1969). To my knowledge, he was
never in another film. I've run into him a few times over the years and he
had problems with employment and alcohol and gambling. He was an overweight
kid in high school, but a very good golfer. He was on a state ranked golf
team, and I think his parents were country club types.
"I actually saw this movie at a drive in theatre and about fainted when I
recognized John. I asked him about it at our 20th reunion and he laughed it
off as a fun experience."
UPDATE 5: Chas Mannell sent this
along:
"I have been looking for some info. on the
movie soundtrack of the
above and was pleased to find an item on your
site. I picked up the LP soundtrack in a local
junk shop last year and was intrigued by the
cover blurb and music within. As there is no
mention of this LP in any of the well-known
record guides I have had a problem with getting
some background on it. Thanks to your great
site, I now know a great deal about it. You've
probably seen the LP sleeve-it's all grainy
black and white with a sailing boat and several
heads in the water. The titles don't credit Gary
Busey-just Christopher, Waters and Kauffman.
Anyway, in case you need to know, it's on the
Custom Fidelity label out of Hollywood (release
number CFS2379)."
UPDATE 6: From Tom Koester:
"I was really surprised to find that
Didn’t You Hear had such a cult
following. I was the sound mixer on this film,
which, except for the
University scenes, was all shot in 1970 on Lopez
Island.
"As one respondent correctly reported, the
film’s creativity is all Karl
Krogstad. Karl was (and still is) an
experimental film/video maker in the
Seattle area. Skip Sherwood was some sort of
marketing person. The
connection was made when Skip made some
advertising spots (which may have been
Veg-a-Matic).
Karl had the film script and the idea, Skip had
the dream of going Hollywood. The film was shot
in 35mm Techniscope (half frame) and the
Cinemascope compositions are a real plus since
it seems to have been shot without the
concept of TV safe and “throw away”.
"The actors were a mix of Hollywood (Gary Busey,
Cheryl Walters, Dennis Christopher) and local
folks. One local, Scott McBreen was a very
talented mimic. He was a golfer who did a
stand-up act at tournaments and golf clubs,
doing imitations of famous golfers (and their
golf swings!) He was very funny. He kept the
cast and crew in stitches in the evenings doing
imitations of literally everyone in the cast and
crew. I had never seen anyone who did
such a good imitation of ... me! His talent is
not evident on the screen.
"Bill Redlin was a Production Manager hired to
make sure the film was
completed. He had a reputation for making sure
of completion, and I believe was a key element
in getting completion bonds. Most of the crew
members came from Bill and had already worked on
one or more projects with him. A remarkable
man, he passed away some time ago (maybe 10 or
more years). My brother (John Koester) was
brought along as
operator “to keep things straight” since Karl
had never shot 35mm (or a feature film) before.
My brother had a long career in TV and movies.
His last credits were as Camera Operator on
“Roswell” and the first episodes of “NYPD Blue.
He died in a traffic accident in 1996.
"Karl Korgstad is still functioning as an
experimental film maker. In the 70 & 80’s, he
made very ambitious live action and puppet
animation films: “Egg Nog”, “The Black and
Deker Hedge Trimmer Murders”, “Party Line”,
“Jack in the Fox”, “Catharsis - or Life in the
Fast Lane”, shot with a very used spring wound
Bolex and scads of young Seattle
volunteers. These films, like Didn’t You
Hear, burst with creativity and imaginative
moments, but often lack cohesiveness, drive or
comprehension. In the 80’s he started Krogstad
Studios to make music videos, which seemed like
a natural for him, since non-sequitir creative
images were the staple of early music videos.
He also made a feature film Strings,
which is nearly unwatchable and I don’t think
ever saw any release. Janice Findley, who
worked with Karl on many of these films (and
stars in “Catharsis”) is a film maker in her own
rite. Her film: “The Art Form of the Twentieth
Century” features Karl and very impressive clips
from his films. Currently, Karl seems to work
exclusively in video. I haven’t seen him in a
couple of years. The last video of his that
I’ve seen: “Fork on a Filling” shows his
imagination still working
full tilt."
UPDATE 7: Ashley Sherwood contacted me
with this:
"Just wanted to drop you a quick note...my
niece came across your review of this movie.
Skip Sherwood is my father, he currently lives
in Massachusetts - but good luck tracking him
down. He also produced another movie you might
want to check out - Americana with David
Carradine. Just wanted to note that Skip's
family did not own the newspaper that he worked
at, it was the White Center News and the paper
was owned by Jerry Robison and my father was in
charge of advertising. Didn't You Hear
was his first venture in to filmmaking - which
he followed with Americana... My
mother did have a copy of the movie, but doesn't
know if it was still around. She does have
several copies of the record soundtrack. As she
put "The movie was good, but people got
bored...the music is really beautiful though."
Like you every once in awhile (if she couldn't
sleep) she would come across it on VERY late
night TV."
(Reader "Janet" wrote in to add, "Another
movie named Country Mile
starring Bobbie Carradine produced and directed
by Skip Sherwood and David Carradine, was filmed
at the same time of the movie
Americana.")
UPDATE 8: Scott McBreen ("Jeff") wrote
in with this:
"Yes,
I was in this rotten tomatoe (Quayle) Didn't
You Hear. I have mostly rotten memories of
the whole experience, thanks to Gary Busey.
Buesy, was an up and coming, yet undiscovered,
Hollywood actor who jumped at a chance to star
in a C-- movie. He had an ego that could fill
the old Kingdome. He would come to dominate
everything; the rehearsals, evening rehearsals,
filming, night life, ladies on the set (damn
few), pot smoking time, up time, down time
everything. This guy could dominate it all.
"Most
of us up her in the Pacific Northwest had never
seen nor met anyone quite like this. We filmed
this gem on one of the most beautiful islands in
the world; Lopez Island in the Washington San
Juans. Paul Allen owns a mansion there. Most of
us viewed the whole experience as one grand
vacation. The San Juans are hidden in the rain
shadow of the Olympic Mts, and south Lopez gets
less yearly rain than Los Angeles. It was so
boring up there ( I had a date with a cow one
night) that we did our rehearsals for the next
day's shooting in the evening. Like all
rehearsals, Busey dominated this one. The asst
director who was supposed to run these things,
got shut down immediately by the steamrolling
Busey. He actually was quite intimidated, and
sat by while Busey enforced his ideas on all. In
his eyes, the movie was all about him.
"One
night I couldn't take it anymore, and stupidly I
said to Busey, "Why don't you let the asst
director run these meeting." I realized my
mistake when I saw steam rising out of Busey's
shirt collar. I was a paltry 150 lbs at the
time, and Busey was just out of Oklahoma
football program, about 6 foot 3 and 225 lbs.
And in shape too. I noticed it got silent in the
room. After the meeting, when we all cleared
outside I noticed a hand coming across my chest
and the next thing I knew I was on the ground.
This beet red face was quivering above me, and
this is all I remember hearing "If you ever
humiliate me again in front of all those people,
they're going to have to tear me off you.' I
was the one quivering , and for days. Trapped
on Lopez Island with a mad man. And there was
no way off. This happened the first week of 5
long weeks on this island.
"Believe
me, I did my best to keep on the farthest point
of the Island from Busey after that. Oh, you
still couldn't avoid him; one night he came
running into the barracks with this odd Oklahoma
twang "We got a bullet, we got a bullet." What
did that mean? A bullet was was his new hit
single, which for one day, 'raced' up the
charts. He had a musical group on the side.
Multi talented, I guess. I heard it once on the
radio 1970, then never heard it again. The
bullet was a 'blank.'
"Busey
tried to make up to me later when we got back to
Seattle. He asked me if I could get him some
good 'grass.' "Sure," I said, hoping to relieve
myself of the junk I had gotten a few weeks
ago. I smoked in those days then quit in ''74.
I unloaded the stuff on Busey for quadruple the
price I had paid for it, then went into fearing
for my life again. When I saw Busey again I
was terrified, thinking this was when They were
going to have to tear him off me. "Great stuff
Scott," said Gary, "Could you get us some more?"
Wow, was I ever relieved. He told me
"Let's go hit some golf balls one of these
days." Sure, I told him, knowing full well
I wouldn't be caught alive on God's green grass
with him. Dead maybe. He also slept with
the female star of the movie. The reason I
remember this is that the heroine was married.
"Poor
guy. I put a curse on his career, and for the
most part it worked. I now read he is a born
again Christian, (as I am) although on his TV
documentary, even his pastor said he had trouble
with Gary. Shocking. I don't believe Gary and I
would have much fellowship, even knowing that.
The sound man Tom Koester, was a real
character. He should have been in the picture.
All in all, the film could have been a real
estate classic, as the San Juans Islands are
some of the world's most valuable island real
estate... I even saved a guys life in that
movie. Dennis Christopher couldn't swim, (nice
time to find out), and during evening shooting (in the water too) about 39 degrees even in
summer. Christopher was sinking, so I walked
underneath him and put his feet on my shoulders
and walked him in. I may have saved the movie
for rotten tomatoe status."
UPDATE 9: John Bilancieri sent this
along:
"The last I knew, Skip was living in
Sudbury, Mass.. His wife owns and operates "Sumiko
Fashion" in Framingham, Mass.. At one point in
the mid-80's, he was going to promote a band
that I was in. He said that he had just retired
as V.P. of A&R at Warner Bros.. He talked a good
game, but I never saw any results. He spoke a
lot of the times he spent hanging out with David
Carradine, and his work on the 70's T.V. show
Kung Fu."
UPDATE 10: Scotty Holman wrote in with
this:
"On a whim, I
decided to do a Google search on 'didn't you
hear?' I was thrilled when I found a site
pertaining to the film Didn't You Hear?
My excitement only increased as I perused the
site, being reminded of a film which had a deep
impact on me during my high school years, but
which I have not seen since. I nearly drove my
mother crazy, begging to go back and see this
strange film again and again. Four times she
drove the six miles or so downtown, dropped me
off, drove home, and then came and picked me up
when I called. I even talked her into giving me
the money to buy the soundtrack album, which was
on sale at the theater.
"Everything about Didn't You Hear? was
cutting edge, from the the weird plot twists to
the soundtrack, which claimed to be the first
entirely electronic movie score. I am inclined
to believe it, as the synthesizers that were
used were some of the earliest built. The film
also was meticulous in the cinematography, and
the editing foretold the frenzied splicing which
was to become the norm in 7 or 8 years. I was
living in a small, back water town in Washington
state at the time, and movies were one of my
favorite forms of escape. But I had never seen
anything like this!
"I was told by some of the staff of the theater
that the film was a doctoral thesis in
cinematography, made by a wealthy grad student
at the University of Washington, which is where
all the campus footage was filmed. The rest of
the film was shot in the San Juan Islands, off
the northwestern coast of Washington state.
Because the cinematography was the reason for
the film, the storyline was not given a lot of
attention, and was mostly created by the
doctoral candidate's fellow students. This
created a somewhat confusing state of affairs,
as you are seeing rather inane drama being
portrayed with lavish attention to detail. It
seems like it ought to be important, but it
really isn't. But there was more to the film
than exercises in filming. Out of the morass of
plot twists, fantasy interludes, and unresolved
conflicts, a gestalt of the times seemed to
emerge, one which was kind of like seeing the
world through the eyes of a group of people,
instead of a single character, and experiencing
the upheavals and reconsiderations that the
times were forcing on people.
"Of course, I was a lonely, aloof teenager, so
this kind of avant garde filmmaking would strike
a chord with me. I often wonder if I would feel
anywhere near as strongly about the film if I
were to see it today. I'll probably never have
the chance to find out. But, thank you for
bringing back some memories of another era!"
UPDATE 11: Richard Wiley sent this in:
"I have a strange memory as the son of a
theatre owner in Port Townsend, Wa. In 1970 I
was 13 years old. In those days independent film
makers marketed their movies as part of what was
then called "four walls" (if I remember
correctly) One of those Film makers and or
"distributor" for Didn't You Hear, asked
my dad, Dick Wiley, owner of the Uptown Theatre
in Port Townsend, for a play date. He agreed and
played it to a curious audience for I think only
3 or 4 days. I remember how strange it was and
to my Dad, who couldn't have been any farther
away from the "Hippies", this film and the
people involved with it could have been from
another planet. We had a small reception after
screening get together at the house one evening
and even that was strange. It was such an odd
experience it really stuck in my memory. Just
thought I'd add a little 1970 exhibitor
perspective on Didn't You Hear."
UPDATE 12: I got this from Doyle Bell:
"A bit more grist for your mill about this
movie.
"There was an ad placed in the Univ of
Washington Husky newspaper about an open casting
call and need for extras for this movie they
were making. I was a poor student, so I showed
up in order to make few $$.
"The main scene for "extras" was an auditorium
scene where some of us were told to look bored,
others studious. I chose "bored" and gave them
what they wanted. Reality is always better than
forced. Later they called back some of us for
another shoot in the "Quad". I guess they liked
my "bored" look.
"They told us the name of the movie and when it
was released, so like most people who were in
the film, I went and watched the movie. I
suppose that after almost 40 years, it might be
fun to go watch it again an reflect on my 15
seconds of lost youth.
"Was the movie "memorable"? Beats me."
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